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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:04 am
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In both the book and the movie, someone (Bloom or Lecter respectively) makes the comment that Graham is an eideteker, "able to assume the emotional viewpoints of others"...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't an eideteker just another name for photographic (eidetic) memory?


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:33 pm
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It does indeed mean someone who has a photographic memory. Maybe what Lecter meant to say was that he was an eideteker who could also "assume the emotional viewpoints of others". But the dialogue was poorly wirtten so that it appeared that Lecter was giving the wrong defenition of eideteker, which I doubt Hannibal would do. That's just my guess.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:08 pm
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That is the impression I got from the dialogue as well, Cadge.

Sometimes with movies, you have to know how to read between the lines. See the things that aren't there. I just recently figured this out and I am still learning how to do it. Let me tell you, it hurts my brain sometimes. XD



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 8:27 pm
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cadge wrote:
It does indeed mean someone who has a photographic memory. Maybe what Lecter meant to say was that he was an eideteker who could also "assume the emotional viewpoints of others". But the dialogue was poorly wirtten so that it appeared that Lecter was giving the wrong defenition of eideteker, which I doubt Hannibal would do. That's just my guess.


This is from Chapter 17 of Red Dragon, during the dialogue between Jack Crawford and Dr. Bloom
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“One thing I’ve noticed – I’m
curious about this: you’re never alone in a room with Graham, are you? You’re
smooth about it, but you’re never one-on-one with him. Why’s that? Do you think
he’s psychic, is that it?”

“No. He’s an eideteker –
he has a remarkable visual memory
– but I don’t think he’s psychic. He wouldn’t
let Duke test him – that doesn’t mean anything, though. He hates to be prodded
and poked. So do I.”


In the book, Lecter never mentions the word.
I dont see the word mentioned in the movie script, however.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 23, 2006 11:19 pm
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Clariz wrote:

I dont see the word mentioned in the movie script, however.

It is definitely in the film, as I was watching Red Dragon with the subtitles on (got a bit of a cold and my ears are blocked-up), and it definitely referred to him as an eideteker. Curious why it's not in the script isn't it? The only answer I can think of is that it was improvised, but that's probably way off.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:38 am
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cadge wrote:
Curious why it's not in the script isn't it? The only answer I can think of is that it was improvised, but that's probably way off.


Not way off at all, in fact you probably absolutely right. Just remember that, for instance, the whole "slurp thingy" after fava beens and a good chianti on SOTL was and Ad lib from Hopkins right there. So why not another improvisation during Red Dragon?...It makes sense


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